{"id":1731,"date":"2026-10-20T09:32:43","date_gmt":"2026-10-20T09:32:43","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/elvapo.ro\/blog\/?p=1731"},"modified":"2026-10-20T12:12:48","modified_gmt":"2026-10-20T12:12:48","slug":"cum-prepari-dinner-lady-longfill-clasic","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/elvapo.ro\/blog\/cum-prepari-dinner-lady-longfill-clasic\/","title":{"rendered":"Cum prepari Dinner Lady Longfill clasic: 14ml, 20ml \u0219i 30ml \u2013 re\u021bete \u0219i VG\/PG"},"content":{"rendered":"<h1><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Cum prepari Dinner Lady Longfill clasic: 14ml, 20ml \u0219i 30ml \u2013 re\u021bete \u0219i VG\/PG<\/span><\/h1>\n<p><strong>Cum prepari Dinner Lady Longfill clasic?<\/strong> Pentru formatul <strong>14ml\/60ml<\/strong> completezi nominal 46ml, pentru <strong>20ml\/60ml<\/strong> completezi 40ml, iar pentru <strong>30ml\/120ml<\/strong> completezi 90ml. \u00cen acest spa\u021biu intr\u0103 baza f\u0103r\u0103 nicotin\u0103 \u0219i eventualele shot-uri. Cu un shot de 10ml la 20mg\/ml \u0219i 60ml final ob\u021bii aproximativ <strong>3,33mg\/ml<\/strong>; cu dou\u0103 shot-uri \u0219i 120ml final ob\u021bii tot aproximativ <strong>3,33mg\/ml<\/strong>. Important: <strong>baza 50VG\/50PG nu garanteaz\u0103 un lichid final 50\/50<\/strong>, pentru c\u0103 aroma \u0219i shot-urile particip\u0103 la raport. Mai jos compar\u0103m cele trei formate clasice, explic\u0103m calculul VG\/PG \u0219i oferim re\u021bete condi\u021bionate de compozi\u021bia confirmat\u0103 a ingredientelor. <strong>Aromele Longfill nu se utilizeaz\u0103 nediluate.<\/strong><\/p>\n<h2>Dinner Lady 14ml, 20ml \u0219i 30ml: c\u00e2t\u0103 baz\u0103 intr\u0103 \u00een fiecare flacon?<\/h2>\n<p>Cele dou\u0103 cifre de pe un Longfill exprim\u0103 lucruri diferite: prima reprezint\u0103 <strong>cantitatea de concentrat existent<\/strong>, iar a doua <strong>capacitatea nominal\u0103 a recipientului<\/strong>. Volumul liber nu \u00eenseamn\u0103 exclusiv baz\u0103, dac\u0103 se adaug\u0103 \u0219i shot-uri.<\/p>\n<table>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<th>Format clasic<\/th>\n<th>Arom\u0103 existent\u0103<\/th>\n<th>Volum final nominal<\/th>\n<th>Spa\u021biu total de completare<\/th>\n<th>Pondere nominal\u0103 a concentratului<\/th>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>14ml\/60ml<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>14ml<\/td>\n<td>60ml<\/td>\n<td><strong>46ml<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>23,33%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>20ml\/60ml<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>20ml<\/td>\n<td>60ml<\/td>\n<td><strong>40ml<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>33,33%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>30ml\/120ml<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>30ml<\/td>\n<td>120ml<\/td>\n<td><strong>90ml<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>25%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>Aceste procente descriu <strong>volumul de concentrat<\/strong>, nu intensitatea gustului. Formatele pot apar\u021bine unor subgame \u0219i formule diferite; nu considera produsul de 20ml automat \u201emai intens\u201d dec\u00e2t unul de 14ml doar pe baza procentului. Pentru orientarea \u00eentre game, vezi <a href=\"https:\/\/elvapo.ro\/blog\/ghid-lichide-dinner-lady-2026\/\">ghidul general Dinner Lady<\/a> \u0219i <a href=\"https:\/\/elvapo.ro\/lichide-longfill\/dinner-lady\/\">categoria de produse Dinner Lady Longfill<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Exemple reale din catalog:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/elvapo.ro\/aroma-dinner-lady-dessert-bar-lemon-tart-longfill-14ml\/3813.htm\">Dessert Bar Lemon Tart 14ml\/60ml<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/elvapo.ro\/dinner-lady-desserts-vanilla-custard-longfill-14ml60ml\/3511.htm\">Desserts Vanilla Custard 14ml\/60ml<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/elvapo.ro\/lemon-tart--dinner-lady-longfill-20ml60ml\/2417.htm\">Lemon Tart 20ml\/60ml<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/elvapo.ro\/dinner-lady-kiwi-melon-20ml60ml\/3037.htm\">Kiwi Melon 20ml\/60ml<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/elvapo.ro\/aroma-dinner-lady-lemon-tart-longfill-30ml120ml\/2886.htm\">Lemon Tart 30ml\/120ml<\/a> \u0219i <a href=\"https:\/\/elvapo.ro\/aroma-dinner-lady-kiwi-melon-30ml120ml\/2714.htm\">Kiwi Melon 30ml\/120ml<\/a>.<\/p>\n<h2>Ce trebuie verificat \u00eenainte de calcul: aroma, PG, VG \u0219i shot-ul<\/h2>\n<p>\u00cen toate tabelele de re\u021bete <strong>50VG\/50PG final<\/strong> de mai jos folosim acelea\u0219i ipoteze explicite:<\/p>\n<ol start=\"1\">\n<li>Concentratul are <strong>0mg\/ml nicotin\u0103<\/strong> \u0219i este <strong>100% PG<\/strong>, numai dac\u0103 aceast\u0103 compozi\u021bie este confirmat\u0103 pentru produsul exact.<\/li>\n<li>Shot-ul, unde apare, are <strong>10ml, 20mg\/ml \u0219i 50VG\/50PG<\/strong>. Un astfel de shot con\u021bine nominal 200mg nicotin\u0103, 5ml VG \u0219i 5ml PG.<\/li>\n<li>Pentru completare se folosesc componente <strong>VG \u0219i PG separate<\/strong>, f\u0103r\u0103 nicotin\u0103. Volumele din tabele sunt <strong>nominale \u0219i considerate aditive<\/strong>; raportul real poate depinde de informa\u021biile \u0219i toleran\u021bele produselor.<\/li>\n<li>Se urm\u0103re\u0219te volumul final \u00eenscris \u00een tabel, nu un volum suplimentar peste capacitatea recipientului.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>Fi\u0219a local\u0103 <a href=\"https:\/\/elvapo.ro\/aroma-dinner-lady-dessert-bar-lemon-tart-longfill-14ml\/3813.htm\">Dessert Bar Lemon Tart 14ml\/60ml<\/a> \u0219i cea pentru <a href=\"https:\/\/elvapo.ro\/dinner-lady-desserts-vanilla-custard-longfill-14ml60ml\/3511.htm\">Vanilla Custard 14ml\/60ml<\/a> declar\u0103 100% PG. Aceea\u0219i men\u021biune apare la <a href=\"https:\/\/elvapo.ro\/aroma-dinner-lady-lemon-tart-longfill-30ml120ml\/2886.htm\">Lemon Tart 30ml\/120ml<\/a>. <strong>La Lemon Tart \u0219i Kiwi Melon 20ml\/60ml, procentul suportului nu este explicit confirmat \u00een fi\u0219ele consultate<\/strong>: re\u021betele exacte VG\/PG de 20ml r\u0103m\u00e2n exemple condi\u021bionate, nu specifica\u021bii garantate. La alte arome 30ml, precum Kiwi Melon, verific\u0103 separat ce \u00eenseamn\u0103 raportul VG\/PG afi\u0219at \u00een fi\u0219a comercial\u0103 \u2014 nu presupune c\u0103 descrie neap\u0103rat concentratul neatins.<\/p>\n<p>Po\u021bi consulta <a href=\"https:\/\/elvapo.ro\/baze\/propilen-glicol\/\">categoria de propilen glicol (PG)<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/elvapo.ro\/baze\/glicerina-vegetala\/\">categoria de glicerin\u0103 vegetal\u0103 (VG)<\/a> \u0219i exemplul de <a href=\"https:\/\/elvapo.ro\/steamok--nicshot--20mg-10ml---50pg50vg--nicotina\/2317.htm\">shot SteamOK 20mg\/ml, 10ml, 50PG\/50VG<\/a>. Verific\u0103 etichetele variantelor cump\u0103rate, inclusiv eventualele ingrediente suplimentare; nu substitui un shot 70\/30 sau unul cu Ice f\u0103r\u0103 recalculare.<\/p>\n<h2>Tabel complet: c\u00e2te shot-uri \u0219i c\u00e2t\u0103 baz\u0103 adaugi la fiecare format?<\/h2>\n<p>Tabelul calculeaz\u0103 <strong>numai volumul \u0219i nicotina<\/strong>, presupun\u00e2nd shot-uri \u00eentregi de <strong>10ml la 20mg\/ml<\/strong>. Acest calcul <strong>nu necesit\u0103<\/strong> presupunerea c\u0103 aroma este 100% PG, dar raportul VG\/PG final nu poate fi determinat f\u0103r\u0103 compozi\u021bia tuturor ingredientelor.<\/p>\n<table>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<th>Format<\/th>\n<th>Shot-uri \u00eentregi<\/th>\n<th>Volum shot-uri<\/th>\n<th>Baz\u0103 f\u0103r\u0103 nicotin\u0103 r\u0103mas\u0103<\/th>\n<th>Nicotin\u0103 final\u0103 nominal\u0103<\/th>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>14ml\/60ml<\/td>\n<td>0<\/td>\n<td>0ml<\/td>\n<td>46ml<\/td>\n<td>0mg\/ml<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>14ml\/60ml<\/td>\n<td>1<\/td>\n<td>10ml<\/td>\n<td>36ml<\/td>\n<td>\u22483,33mg\/ml<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>14ml\/60ml<\/td>\n<td>2<\/td>\n<td>20ml<\/td>\n<td>26ml<\/td>\n<td>\u22486,67mg\/ml<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>20ml\/60ml<\/td>\n<td>0<\/td>\n<td>0ml<\/td>\n<td>40ml<\/td>\n<td>0mg\/ml<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>20ml\/60ml<\/td>\n<td>1<\/td>\n<td>10ml<\/td>\n<td>30ml<\/td>\n<td>\u22483,33mg\/ml<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>20ml\/60ml<\/td>\n<td>2<\/td>\n<td>20ml<\/td>\n<td>20ml<\/td>\n<td>\u22486,67mg\/ml<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>30ml\/120ml<\/td>\n<td>0<\/td>\n<td>0ml<\/td>\n<td>90ml<\/td>\n<td>0mg\/ml<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>30ml\/120ml<\/td>\n<td>1<\/td>\n<td>10ml<\/td>\n<td>80ml<\/td>\n<td>\u22481,67mg\/ml<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>30ml\/120ml<\/td>\n<td>2<\/td>\n<td>20ml<\/td>\n<td>70ml<\/td>\n<td>\u22483,33mg\/ml<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>30ml\/120ml<\/td>\n<td>3<\/td>\n<td>30ml<\/td>\n<td>60ml<\/td>\n<td>5mg\/ml<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p><strong>Formula nicotinei:<\/strong> concentra\u021bia final\u0103 (mg\/ml) = volumul total de shot (ml) \u00d7 concentra\u021bia shot-ului (mg\/ml) \u00f7 volumul final (ml). De pild\u0103, <strong>10 \u00d7 20 \u00f7 60 = 3,33mg\/ml<\/strong>, iar <strong>20 \u00d7 20 \u00f7 120 = 3,33mg\/ml<\/strong>. Aceste valori sunt calcule de concentra\u021bie, <strong>nu recomand\u0103ri individuale de nicotin\u0103<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<h2>Re\u021betar unic: 50VG\/50PG FINAL pentru 14ml, 20ml \u0219i 30ml<\/h2>\n<p>Dac\u0103 suportul concentratului este <strong>confirmat 100% PG<\/strong>, shot-urile sunt <strong>50VG\/50PG<\/strong> \u0219i se folosesc <strong>PG \u0219i VG separate<\/strong>, urm\u0103toarele combina\u021bii dau nominal <strong>50VG\/50PG \u00een \u00eentregul lichid<\/strong>, nu doar \u00een baza ad\u0103ugat\u0103.<\/p>\n<table>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<th>Longfill<\/th>\n<th>Shot-uri 50\/50<\/th>\n<th>VG pur de ad\u0103ugat<\/th>\n<th>PG pur de ad\u0103ugat<\/th>\n<th>Volum final<\/th>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>14ml\/60ml<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>0<\/td>\n<td><strong>30ml<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>16ml<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>60ml<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>14ml\/60ml<\/td>\n<td>1 \u00d7 10ml<\/td>\n<td><strong>25ml<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>11ml<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>60ml<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>14ml\/60ml<\/td>\n<td>2 \u00d7 10ml<\/td>\n<td><strong>20ml<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>6ml<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>60ml<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>20ml\/60ml<\/strong>*<\/td>\n<td>0<\/td>\n<td><strong>30ml<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>10ml<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>60ml<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>20ml\/60ml*<\/td>\n<td>1 \u00d7 10ml<\/td>\n<td><strong>25ml<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>5ml<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>60ml<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>20ml\/60ml*<\/td>\n<td>2 \u00d7 10ml<\/td>\n<td><strong>20ml<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>0ml<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>60ml<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>30ml\/120ml<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>0<\/td>\n<td><strong>60ml<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>30ml<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>120ml<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>30ml\/120ml<\/td>\n<td>1 \u00d7 10ml<\/td>\n<td><strong>55ml<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>25ml<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>120ml<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>30ml\/120ml<\/td>\n<td>2 \u00d7 10ml<\/td>\n<td><strong>50ml<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>20ml<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>120ml<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>30ml\/120ml<\/td>\n<td>3 \u00d7 10ml<\/td>\n<td><strong>45ml<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>15ml<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>120ml<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Important la 20ml\/60ml:<\/strong> propor\u021biile sunt valabile <strong>numai dac\u0103 se confirm\u0103 c\u0103 cei 20ml de arom\u0103 sunt integral PG<\/strong>. Nu publica rezultatul \u201e50\/50 exact\u201d ca specifica\u021bie universal\u0103 a gamei.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3>Exemplu 14ml\/60ml: un shot \u00eentreg, 50\/50 final<\/h3>\n<p><strong>14ml arom\u0103 + 10ml shot 50\/50 + 25ml VG + 11ml PG = 60ml.<\/strong> Verificare: VG = 5 + 25 = <strong>30ml<\/strong>, iar PG = 14 + 5 + 11 = <strong>30ml<\/strong>. Nicotina = 200mg \u00f7 60ml = <strong>aproximativ 3,33mg\/ml<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<h3>Exemplu 20ml\/60ml: un shot \u00eentreg, 50\/50 final condi\u021bionat<\/h3>\n<p><strong>20ml arom\u0103 presupus\u0103 100% PG + 10ml shot 50\/50 + 25ml VG + 5ml PG = 60ml.<\/strong> Verificare: VG = 5 + 25 = <strong>30ml<\/strong>; PG = 20 + 5 + 5 = <strong>30ml<\/strong>. Nu aplica aceast\u0103 distribu\u021bie produsului t\u0103u \u00eenainte de confirmarea suportului concentratului.<\/p>\n<h3>Exemplu 30ml\/120ml: dou\u0103 shot-uri, 50\/50 final<\/h3>\n<p><strong>30ml arom\u0103 100% PG + 20ml shot-uri 50\/50 + 50ml VG + 20ml PG = 120ml.<\/strong> Verificare: VG = 10 + 50 = <strong>60ml<\/strong>; PG = 30 + 10 + 20 = <strong>60ml<\/strong>. Nicotina = 400mg \u00f7 120ml = <strong>aproximativ 3,33mg\/ml<\/strong>. Exemplul se poate aplica matematic unei variante de tip <strong>Lemon Tart 30ml\/120ml<\/strong> cu suportul PG confirmat.<\/p>\n<h2>Baz\u0103 50\/50 sau 70\/30: de ce raportul final este diferit?<\/h2>\n<p>Expresia <strong>\u201eam pus baz\u0103 50\/50\u201d<\/strong> descrie doar baza ad\u0103ugat\u0103, nu obligatoriu lichidul final. Tabelul urm\u0103tor presupune <strong>concentrat 100% PG<\/strong>, <strong>zero shot-uri<\/strong> \u0219i completarea <strong>\u00eentregului spa\u021biu liber<\/strong> exclusiv cu o baz\u0103 premixat\u0103.<\/p>\n<table>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<th>Format<\/th>\n<th>Baza premixat\u0103 turnat\u0103<\/th>\n<th>VG final nominal<\/th>\n<th>PG final nominal<\/th>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>14ml\/60ml<\/td>\n<td>46ml baz\u0103 50VG\/50PG<\/td>\n<td><strong>38,33%<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>61,67%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>14ml\/60ml<\/td>\n<td>46ml baz\u0103 70VG\/30PG<\/td>\n<td><strong>53,67%<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>46,33%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>20ml\/60ml*<\/td>\n<td>40ml baz\u0103 50VG\/50PG<\/td>\n<td><strong>33,33%<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>66,67%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>20ml\/60ml*<\/td>\n<td>40ml baz\u0103 70VG\/30PG<\/td>\n<td><strong>46,67%<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>53,33%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>30ml\/120ml<\/td>\n<td>90ml baz\u0103 50VG\/50PG<\/td>\n<td><strong>37,50%<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>62,50%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>30ml\/120ml<\/td>\n<td>90ml baz\u0103 70VG\/30PG<\/td>\n<td><strong>52,50%<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>47,50%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<ul>\n<li>Compozi\u021bia integral PG a unui concentrat de 20ml trebuie <strong>confirmat\u0103<\/strong>. Valorile nu sunt m\u0103sur\u0103tori de laborator.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>De exemplu, pentru 14ml\/60ml, o baz\u0103 50\/50 de 46ml aduce <strong>23ml VG \u0219i 23ml PG<\/strong>; cei 14ml de concentrat presupus integral PG ridic\u0103 PG-ul total la <strong>37ml<\/strong>. Astfel, raportul final este aproximativ <strong>38VG\/62PG<\/strong>, nu 50\/50.<\/p>\n<h2>Po\u021bi ob\u021bine 60VG\/40PG sau 70VG\/30PG FINAL?<\/h2>\n<p><strong>Depinde de suportul concentratului, de shot \u0219i de volumul final.<\/strong> Nu po\u021bi scoate prin diluare PG-ul deja prezent, dac\u0103 p\u0103strezi acela\u0219i volum final. Pentru 60ml cu 70VG\/30PG sunt permise nominal numai <strong>18ml PG total<\/strong>; pentru 120ml, limita este <strong>36ml PG<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<table>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<th>Format \u0219i ipotez\u0103 100% PG<\/th>\n<th>Situa\u021bie<\/th>\n<th>60VG\/40PG final<\/th>\n<th>70VG\/30PG final<\/th>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>14ml\/60ml<\/td>\n<td>F\u0103r\u0103 shot<\/td>\n<td>Posibil: 36ml VG + 10ml PG<\/td>\n<td>Posibil: 42ml VG + 4ml PG<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>14ml\/60ml<\/td>\n<td>1 shot 50\/50<\/td>\n<td>Posibil: 31ml VG + 5ml PG<\/td>\n<td><strong>Imposibil:<\/strong> 14 + 5 = 19ml PG, limita este 18ml<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>14ml\/60ml<\/td>\n<td>1 shot 70\/30<\/td>\n<td>Posibil cu recalculare<\/td>\n<td>Posibil: 35ml VG + 1ml PG<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>20ml\/60ml*<\/td>\n<td>F\u0103r\u0103 shot<\/td>\n<td>Posibil: 36ml VG + 4ml PG<\/td>\n<td><strong>Imposibil:<\/strong> exist\u0103 deja 20ml PG<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>20ml\/60ml*<\/td>\n<td>1 shot 50\/50<\/td>\n<td><strong>Imposibil:<\/strong> PG ajunge la 25ml, limita este 24ml<\/td>\n<td><strong>Imposibil<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>30ml\/120ml<\/td>\n<td>F\u0103r\u0103 shot<\/td>\n<td>Posibil: 72ml VG + 18ml PG<\/td>\n<td>Posibil: 84ml VG + 6ml PG<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>30ml\/120ml<\/td>\n<td>1 shot 50\/50<\/td>\n<td>Posibil: 67ml VG + 13ml PG<\/td>\n<td>Posibil: 79ml VG + 1ml PG<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>30ml\/120ml<\/td>\n<td>2 shot-uri 50\/50<\/td>\n<td>Posibil: 62ml VG + 8ml PG<\/td>\n<td><strong>Imposibil:<\/strong> 30 + 10 = 40ml PG, limita este 36ml<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<ul>\n<li>Pentru 20ml\/60ml, toate concluziile sunt condi\u021bionate de suportul 100% PG. Un shot 70VG\/30PG schimb\u0103 \u0219i el calculul; tabelul principal 50\/50 nu i se aplic\u0103.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>Aten\u021bie la o eroare frecvent\u0103:<\/strong> dou\u0103 shot-uri 50\/50 nu permit 70VG\/30PG final pentru Lemon Tart 30ml\/120ml dac\u0103 cei 30ml sunt integral PG. Dou\u0103 shot-uri <strong>70VG\/30PG<\/strong>, \u00een schimb, ar aduce numai 6ml PG; \u00een ipoteza exact\u0103 a acestor ingrediente, 70\/30 final ar fi matematic posibil prin ad\u0103ugarea a 70ml VG \u0219i 0ml PG. Acest exemplu nu stabile\u0219te compatibilitatea cu un anumit dispozitiv \u0219i trebuie verificat cu datele reale ale shot-ului.<\/p>\n<h2>Cum verifici un amestec corect, pas cu pas?<\/h2>\n<h3>Pasul 1. Identific\u0103 formatul, aroma \u0219i instruc\u021biunea lotului<\/h3>\n<p>Confirm\u0103 dac\u0103 ai <strong>14ml\/60ml<\/strong>, <strong>20ml\/60ml<\/strong> sau <strong>30ml\/120ml<\/strong>. Verific\u0103 denumirea produsului, integritatea recipientului, data \u0219i recomand\u0103rile de dilu\u021bie. Nu folosi concentratul nediluat \u0219i nu copia re\u021beta unui format Hyper \u00eentr-un Longfill clasic.<\/p>\n<h3>Pasul 2. Verific\u0103 datele fiec\u0103rui ingredient<\/h3>\n<p>Cite\u0219te compozi\u021bia aromei \u0219i a shot-ului (volum, mg\/ml, VG\/PG \u0219i eventuale alte adaosuri). O alt\u0103 concentra\u021bie de shot ori un suport diferit al aromei necesit\u0103 <strong>recalcularea complet\u0103<\/strong> a PG \u0219i VG. Pentru calculele generale, vezi <a href=\"https:\/\/elvapo.ro\/blog\/cum-folosesti-calculator-lichid-vape\/\">calculatorul explicat de ELVAPO<\/a>.<\/p>\n<h3>Pasul 3. Calculeaz\u0103 separat nicotina \u0219i volumul<\/h3>\n<p>\u00cenainte de completare, controleaz\u0103 dou\u0103 ecua\u021bii: <strong>volumul final = arom\u0103 + shot + VG + PG<\/strong>, iar <strong>nicotina final\u0103 = cantitatea total\u0103 de nicotin\u0103 \u00f7 volumul final<\/strong>. De exemplu, la 14ml\/60ml cu un shot \u00eentreg r\u0103m\u00e2n 36ml pentru baza f\u0103r\u0103 nicotin\u0103. Nu ad\u0103uga 46ml de baz\u0103 <strong>\u0219i apoi<\/strong> \u00eenc\u0103 10ml shot.<\/p>\n<h3>Pasul 4. Calculeaz\u0103 VG\/PG \u0219i verific\u0103 dac\u0103 rezultatul este posibil<\/h3>\n<p>Num\u0103r\u0103 PG-ul \u0219i VG-ul deja aduse de concentrat \u0219i shot, apoi calculeaz\u0103 ce mai lipse\u0219te p\u00e2n\u0103 la raportul urm\u0103rit. Dac\u0103 formula cere <strong>o cantitate negativ\u0103 de PG sau VG<\/strong>, acel raport este imposibil cu ingredientele \u0219i volumul date. Nu \u00eencerca s\u0103 \u00eel \u201erepari\u201d prin supra-umplere.<\/p>\n<h3>Pasul 5. M\u0103soar\u0103, omogenizeaz\u0103, eticheteaz\u0103 \u0219i depoziteaz\u0103<\/h3>\n<p>Folose\u0219te instrumente gradate curate \u0219i adecvate, echipament de protec\u021bie conform instruc\u021biunilor produselor \u0219i recipiente bine \u00eenchise. <strong>Mililitrii nu se convertesc automat \u00een grame<\/strong>, deoarece PG \u0219i VG au densit\u0103\u021bi diferite. Noteaz\u0103 data, aroma, volumul, raportul verificat \u0219i concentra\u021bia nominal\u0103 de nicotin\u0103. P\u0103streaz\u0103 amestecul inaccesibil copiilor \u0219i animalelor, ferit de lumin\u0103 direct\u0103 \u0219i c\u0103ldur\u0103. Dac\u0103 nu po\u021bi identifica precis ingredientele sau concentra\u021bia nicotinei, <strong>nu utiliza amestecul<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<h2>Repausul dup\u0103 preparare: aceea\u0219i maturare pentru Lemon Tart \u0219i Vanilla Custard?<\/h2>\n<p>Nu exist\u0103 un interval comun \u0219i verificat pentru <strong>toate<\/strong> concentratele Dinner Lady. Unele fi\u0219e locale recomand\u0103 orientativ c\u00e2teva zile, \u00een timp ce <a href=\"https:\/\/elvapo.ro\/dinner-lady-desserts-vanilla-custard-longfill-14ml60ml\/3511.htm\">Vanilla Custard 14ml\/60ml<\/a> men\u021bioneaz\u0103 <strong>20\u201330 de zile<\/strong>. Acestea sunt afirma\u021bii <strong>specifice fi\u0219elor comerciale<\/strong>, nu reguli universale sau garan\u021bii de siguran\u021b\u0103. Respect\u0103 indica\u021biile variantei \u0219i lotului. Repausul nu corecteaz\u0103 o concentra\u021bie calculat\u0103 gre\u0219it. Maturarea \u0219i p\u0103strarea vor avea un articol dedicat, separat de aceast\u0103 pagin\u0103 de re\u021bete.<\/p>\n<h2>Longfill clasic vs Dinner Lady Hyper: nu copia propor\u021biile<\/h2>\n<p><strong>Longfill clasic 30ml\/120ml<\/strong> con\u021bine de trei ori mai mult concentrat \u00een acela\u0219i flacon nominal dec\u00e2t <strong>Hyper 10ml\/120ml<\/strong>. Asta nu demonstreaz\u0103 automat c\u0103 unul este mai puternic aromatic: formulele pot fi diferite. Re\u021beta de aici nu se folose\u0219te pentru Hyper. Pentru delimitare, cite\u0219te <a href=\"https:\/\/elvapo.ro\/blog\/dinner-lady-hyper-vs-longfill-clasic-diferente\/\">Dinner Lady Hyper vs Longfill clasic<\/a>; pentru formatul Hyper exist\u0103 <a href=\"https:\/\/elvapo.ro\/blog\/cum-prepari-dinner-lady-hyper-10ml-120ml-in-4-pasi\/\">ghidul de preparare 10ml\/120ml<\/a>. Acest articol se ocup\u0103 numai de <strong>prepararea Longfill-ului clasic \u00een formatele 14, 20 \u0219i 30ml<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<h2>Gre\u0219eli frecvente \u0219i verific\u0103ri sigure<\/h2>\n<table>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<th>Gre\u0219eal\u0103 \u00eent\u00e2lnit\u0103<\/th>\n<th>Consecin\u021b\u0103 posibil\u0103<\/th>\n<th>Ce verifici<\/th>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Pui \u00eent\u00e2i tot spa\u021biul liber ca baz\u0103, apoi shot-uri<\/td>\n<td>Dep\u0103\u0219e\u0219ti volumul final<\/td>\n<td>Shot-ul trebuie inclus \u00een cei 46, 40 sau 90ml disponibili<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Nume\u0219ti 1 shot \/ 60ml \u201e3mg\/ml exact\u201d<\/td>\n<td>Etichet\u0103 matematic\u0103 gre\u0219it\u0103<\/td>\n<td>200mg \u00f7 60ml \u22483,33mg\/ml<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Presupui c\u0103 aroma 20ml este 100% PG<\/td>\n<td>Raport VG\/PG neverificat<\/td>\n<td>Eticheta \u0219i fi\u0219a variantei exacte<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Folose\u0219ti baz\u0103 premixat\u0103 70\/30 \u0219i declari 70\/30 final<\/td>\n<td>Raportul lichidului poate fi diferit<\/td>\n<td>Aduni PG \u0219i VG din toate componentele<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>For\u021bezi un raport cu PG calculat negativ<\/td>\n<td>Re\u021bet\u0103 imposibil\u0103 la volumul ales<\/td>\n<td>Schimbi ipoteza sau renun\u021bi la acel raport; nu supra-umpli<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Aplici re\u021beta clasic\u0103 la Hyper<\/td>\n<td>Dilu\u021bie incompatibil\u0103 cu formatul<\/td>\n<td>Gama \u0219i capacitatea corect\u0103<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Cre\u0219ti puterea pentru a compensa gustul slab ori ars<\/td>\n<td>Poate agrava problema dispozitivului<\/td>\n<td>Opre\u0219ti utilizarea \u0219i verifici cartu\u0219ul conform manualului<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>Pentru situa\u021bii de diagnostic care nu \u021bin doar de calculele Dinner Lady, exist\u0103 <a href=\"https:\/\/elvapo.ro\/blog\/greseli-lichid-diy-diagnostic-pas-cu-pas-2026\/\">ghidul ELVAPO despre gre\u0219elile lichidului DIY<\/a>.<\/p>\n<h2><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">\u00centreb\u0103ri frecvente despre prepararea Dinner Lady Longfill<\/span><\/h2>\n<h3>1. C\u00e2t\u0103 baz\u0103 adaug la Dinner Lady Longfill 14ml\/60ml?<\/h3>\n<p>\u00cen total exist\u0103 <strong>46ml spa\u021biu liber<\/strong>. F\u0103r\u0103 shot, 46ml revin bazei; cu un shot \u00eentreg de 10ml r\u0103m\u00e2n <strong>36ml baz\u0103<\/strong>. Raportul VG\/PG al acestei baze se calculeaz\u0103 din compozi\u021bia ingredientelor \u0219i \u021binta final\u0103.<\/p>\n<h3>2. C\u00e2t\u0103 baz\u0103 intr\u0103 \u00eentr-un Dinner Lady 20ml\/60ml?<\/h3>\n<p>Formatul las\u0103 <strong>40ml pentru completare<\/strong>: 40ml f\u0103r\u0103 shot sau 30ml dup\u0103 un shot de 10ml. Nu presupune suportul integral PG dac\u0103 fi\u0219a produsului nu \u00eel confirm\u0103.<\/p>\n<h3>3. C\u00e2t completez la Dinner Lady 30ml\/120ml?<\/h3>\n<p><strong>90ml<\/strong> p\u00e2n\u0103 la volumul nominal final: 90ml f\u0103r\u0103 nicotin\u0103, 80ml cu un shot de 10ml sau 70ml cu dou\u0103 shot-uri de 10ml.<\/p>\n<h3>4. C\u00e2te shot-uri dau aproximativ 3,33mg\/ml la 60ml?<\/h3>\n<p><strong>Un shot de 10ml la 20mg\/ml<\/strong>, inclus \u00een volumul final de 60ml, con\u021bine 200mg nicotin\u0103, deci \u22483,33mg\/ml.<\/p>\n<h3>5. C\u00e2te shot-uri dau aproximativ 3,33mg\/ml la 120ml?<\/h3>\n<p><strong>Dou\u0103 shot-uri de 10ml la 20mg\/ml<\/strong>, \u00eentr-un volum final de 120ml, con\u021bin 400mg nicotin\u0103, deci \u22483,33mg\/ml.<\/p>\n<h3>6. Dou\u0103 shot-uri \u00eentr-un Longfill 60ml \u00eenseamn\u0103 exact 6mg\/ml?<\/h3>\n<p>Nu. Dou\u0103 shot-uri \u00eentregi de 10ml la 20mg\/ml con\u021bin 400mg nicotin\u0103; \u00een 60ml final \u00eenseamn\u0103 <strong>\u22486,67mg\/ml<\/strong>. Pentru 6mg\/ml matematic ar fi 18ml de shot 20mg\/ml, numai cu m\u0103surare adecvat\u0103 \u0219i verificarea formulei.<\/p>\n<h3>7. Pot ob\u021bine 50VG\/50PG final folosind numai baz\u0103 premixat\u0103 50\/50?<\/h3>\n<p>Nu automat. Un concentrat pe suport PG cre\u0219te ponderea PG \u00een lichid. Pentru 50\/50 final se calculeaz\u0103 <strong>\u00eentregul amestec<\/strong>, nu doar raportul bazei ad\u0103ugate.<\/p>\n<h3>8. Pot ob\u021bine 70VG\/30PG final \u00eentr-un Longfill 20ml\/60ml?<\/h3>\n<p><strong>Nu dac\u0103 cei 20ml de concentrat sunt integral PG<\/strong> \u0219i volumul final r\u0103m\u00e2ne 60ml: 70\/30 permite numai 18ml PG. Dac\u0103 suportul aromei difer\u0103, este necesar un calcul nou pe date confirmate.<\/p>\n<h3>9. Pot ob\u021bine 70VG\/30PG final la 14ml\/60ml cu un shot 50\/50?<\/h3>\n<p>\u00cen ipoteza aromei 100% PG, <strong>nu<\/strong>. Cei 14ml PG din arom\u0103 plus 5ml PG din shot \u00eensumeaz\u0103 19ml, peste \u021binta de 18ml PG. Cu un shot 70VG\/30PG, posibilit\u0103\u021bile difer\u0103.<\/p>\n<h3>10. De ce 30ml\/120ml cu dou\u0103 shot-uri 50\/50 nu ajunge la 70\/30 final?<\/h3>\n<p>Dac\u0103 aroma este integral PG, cei 30ml de concentrat \u0219i cei 10ml PG din shot-uri \u00eensumeaz\u0103 <strong>40ml PG<\/strong>, peste \u021binta de <strong>36ml PG<\/strong> la 120ml final 70\/30.<\/p>\n<h3>11. Toate aromele Dinner Lady 14ml, 20ml \u0219i 30ml au suport 100% PG?<\/h3>\n<p>Nu putem afirma acest lucru pentru toate produsele sau loturile. Unele fi\u0219e declar\u0103 explicit 100% PG, altele nu precizeaz\u0103 suportul complet sau con\u021bin exprim\u0103ri ambigue. Verific\u0103 produsul exact.<\/p>\n<h3>12. C\u00e2t trebuie l\u0103sat un Dinner Lady Longfill la maturat?<\/h3>\n<p>Nu exist\u0103 un num\u0103r universal valabil. Respect\u0103 instruc\u021biunile \u0219i recomand\u0103rile confirmate pentru produsul exact. Maturarea nu repar\u0103 o diluare gre\u0219it\u0103 sau o concentra\u021bie de nicotin\u0103 necunoscut\u0103.<\/p>\n<h3>13. Este un lichid final 50\/50 sau 70\/30 compatibil cu orice POD?<\/h3>\n<p>Nu. Compatibilitatea depinde de v\u00e2scozitatea lichidului final, cartu\u0219, rezisten\u021b\u0103, putere \u0219i documenta\u021bia dispozitivului. Niciun tabel de preparare nu \u00eenlocuie\u0219te manualul.<\/p>\n<h2><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Concluzie: re\u021beta corect\u0103 porne\u0219te de la format \u0219i de la ingredientele reale<\/span><\/h2>\n<p>Pentru <strong>Dinner Lady Longfill clasic<\/strong>, re\u021bii trei valori: <strong>14ml\/60ml \u2192 46ml liberi<\/strong>, <strong>20ml\/60ml \u2192 40ml liberi<\/strong>, <strong>30ml\/120ml \u2192 90ml liberi<\/strong>. Eventualele shot-uri ocup\u0103 o parte din acest spa\u021biu; nu se adaug\u0103 peste volumul final. <strong>50VG\/50PG final<\/strong> nu \u00eenseamn\u0103 automat \u201etorn baz\u0103 premixat\u0103 50\/50\u201d, iar un raport 70\/30 poate fi matematic imposibil pentru unele combina\u021bii. Folose\u0219te tabelele numai cu suportul concentratului \u0219i compozi\u021bia shot-ului <strong>confirmate<\/strong>, verific\u0103 suma volumelor \u0219i compatibilitatea cu dispozitivul. Pentru variantele disponibile consult\u0103 <a href=\"https:\/\/elvapo.ro\/lichide-longfill\/dinner-lady\/\">categoria Dinner Lady Longfill ELVAPO<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Informare 18+:<\/strong> Acest material este destinat exclusiv adul\u021bilor \u0219i are scop informativ. Nicotina creeaz\u0103 dependen\u021b\u0103 \u0219i poate provoca intoxica\u021bii prin expunere accidental\u0103. Nu utiliza arome concentrate nediluate, nu ingera lichidele, evit\u0103 contactul cu pielea \u0219i ochii \u0219i respect\u0103 instruc\u021biunile produc\u0103torului. P\u0103streaz\u0103 produsele inaccesibile copiilor \u0219i animalelor. Persoanele care nu utilizeaz\u0103 nicotin\u0103 nu ar trebui s\u0103 \u00eenceap\u0103; vapatul nu este lipsit de riscuri.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Surse de referin\u021b\u0103:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.vapedinnerlady.com\/blogs\/vape-dinner-lady-blog\/how-to-make-your-own-e-liquids-at-home\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Dinner Lady \u2013 How to Make Your Own E-Liquids at Home<\/a> (principii generale DIY, nu certificarea tuturor formulelor locale); <a href=\"https:\/\/elvapo.ro\/blog\/cum-folosesti-calculator-lichid-vape\/\">calculatorul de lichid ELVAPO<\/a>; fi\u0219ele produselor ELVAPO legate \u00een articol. <em>Revizie editorial\u0103: 18 octombrie 2026; rezultatele sunt calcule nominale, nu teste de laborator.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Cum prepari Dinner Lady Longfill clasic: 14ml, 20ml \u0219i 30ml \u2013 re\u021bete \u0219i VG\/PG Cum prepari Dinner Lady Longfill clasic? Pentru formatul 14ml\/60ml completezi nominal 46ml, pentru 20ml\/60ml completezi 40ml, iar pentru 30ml\/120ml completezi 90ml. \u00cen acest spa\u021biu intr\u0103 baza&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":1733,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[445],"tags":[2381,2380,2358,2359,2357,2383,2382],"class_list":["post-1731","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-lichide-si-arome","tag-baza-vg-pg-dinner-lady","tag-cum-prepari-dinner-lady-longfill","tag-dinner-lady-14ml-60ml","tag-dinner-lady-20ml-60ml","tag-dinner-lady-30ml-120ml","tag-retete-longfill","tag-shoturi-dinner-lady"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/elvapo.ro\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1731","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/elvapo.ro\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/elvapo.ro\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/elvapo.ro\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/elvapo.ro\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1731"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/elvapo.ro\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1731\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1734,"href":"https:\/\/elvapo.ro\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1731\/revisions\/1734"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/elvapo.ro\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/1733"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/elvapo.ro\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1731"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/elvapo.ro\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1731"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/elvapo.ro\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1731"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}